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    India, update

    Talk:Asian_News_International#Some_news Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Tragedy of a commons: on Wikimedia and the free flow of information, editorial from The Hindu, a little encouraging. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Relief for Wikipedia as Supreme Court sets aside Delhi High Court order to take down defamatory edits against ANI Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:20, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Founder of Wikipedia and Interest in Technology

    Hello there, are you a founder of Wikipedia?

    Other than this, are you interested in inventing new technologies, since you are the one that revolutionized Wikis and how information is presented on the internet? If so, what types of technology do you enjoy or are used to? Additionally, what are your favorite articles to edit and Wikiprojects to join? But are you interested in reading books in order to gain knowledge?

    Thank you if you answer me. •TechScience2044 (|send me a note|) 19:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    He is actually the co-founder.--Malerooster (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    How did he cofounded this wiki? •TechScience2044 (|send me a note|) 16:07, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We have quite a detailed page at History of Wikipedia that goes into this. CMD (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    But more importantly, did you appear on MasterChef Australia as your IMDB page states? Neither the WP article about you, nor MasterChef, confirm this. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:58, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bri: Apparently it was MasterChef UK. Graham87 (talk) 03:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    How is he featured? •TechScience2044 (|send me a note|) 17:09, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ...Standing up? Cooking? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, he is, but what is that all about? •TechScience2044 (|send me a note|) 09:41, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Raising awareness of food loss and waste. CMD (talk) 12:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Any other appearance? •TechScience2044 (|send me a note|) 17:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    On MasterChef? Only Gordon Ramsay can tell. CMD (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I appeared on MasterChef UK as a guest (eating the food and chatting with the other guests), not as a chef.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 08:10, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Jimbo, would you be open to more guest appearances on broadcast television in the future? I must say, looking back on that episode, you killed it in front of the camera! BarntToust 15:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, haha, thanks! Sure, I enjoyed it. The one thing I told my family is that I have a hard absolute NO on doing Strictly Come Dancing (a UK dance competition). Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, come on Jimbo, put on your dancing shoes and dance the night away!!--Malerooster (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Letter to Wikimedia Foundation from Ed Martin, United States Attorney for the District of Columbia: "To Whom it May Concern"

    So it begins:

    Today Ed Martin sent this letter to the WMF. Carlstak (talk) 21:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    It has come to my attention that the Wikimedia Foundation, through its wholly owned subsidiary Wikipedia, is allowing foreign actors to manipulate information and spread propaganda to the American public.
    Is it just me or is this part arguing that letting non-Americans edit Wikipedia in any capacity is the problem, in this person's opinion? SilverserenC 21:46, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, the chutzpah. Martin writes:
    Wikipedia is permitting information manipulation on its platform, including the rewriting of key, historical events and biographical information of current and previous American leaders, as well as other matters implicating the national security and the interests of the United States. Masking propaganda that influences public opinion under the guise of providing informational material is antithetical to Wikimedia’s “educational” mission.
    Good lord, has he not read Conservapedia's article on Putin (rhetorical question)? Then:
    Lastly, it has come to our attention that generative AI platforms receive Wikipedia data to train large-language models. This data is now consumed by masses of Americans and American teachers on a daily basis. If the data provided is manipulated, particularly by foreign actors and entities, Wikipedia’s relationship with generative AI platforms have the potential to launder information on behalf of foreign actors. Carlstak (talk) 22:04, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just block Ed Martin for WP:NLT then. [Humor] —Mint Keyphase (Did I mess up? What have I done?) 03:28, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm absolutely a foreign actor. Fwiw, I just started the George Lundeen article, and he just made a statue of Trump, so maybe it evens out. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:39, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Come to think of it, according to WP, Jimbo has UK citizenship, so he's a foreign actor too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I wish I lived in a world where the official WMF response is “fuck off Nazi”. I don’t think I do, though. Floquenbeam (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If ever there was a time for such a response, now is it.
    I hope if you are visiting the US any time soon Jimbo, that your paperwork is 100% in order and you leave your mobile at home. Knitsey (talk) 23:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram"
    - Roxy the dog 23:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Be more Hislop. Knitsey (talk) 23:44, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This article includes a response by a WMF member, implying they will uphold how WP is edited and the result of all editors checking everything to fit core content policies. Masem (t) 01:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Page 3 point 6 of the letter from the Acting United States Attorney for the District of Columbia says Similarly, what is the Foundation's official process for auditing or evaluating the actions, activities, and voting patterns of editors, admins, and committees, including the Arbitration Committee ... This is clearly a major concern for all editors and administrators. Clearly, these people are planning to "audit and evaluate" us when the WMF tells them that is not appropriate and not how Wikipedia works. I reject the notion that editors and administrators should meekly step aside and expect the WMF handle this latest outrage with zero input from us. Cullen328 (talk) 03:55, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Guess what Mr. Martin? Wikipedia is not a mouthpiece of the American government. Now America is no better than China. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Martin letter shows a complete lack of understanding how Wikipedia works. It assumes that the Wikimedia Foundation has a kind of executive role controlling content, supervising the Arbitration Committee and so on. However, outsiders looking in frequently assume that and have a right to assume that. I think it would be a serious mistake not to take its concerns seriously, not only because of the implicit threat here but because the concerns underlying his letter are not incorrect. To me this is very much like the concerns raised over conflicts of interest and paid editing some years ago. This is a WMF problem not an editor problem. We shouldn't get bent out of shape over it. Coretheapple (talk) 12:40, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Mmm, "the concerns underlying his letter are not incorrect"? Unlikely. It sounds to me as if he doesn't like the issue that facts presented by Wikipedia conflict with his (and his masters) view of reality. As mentioned above, I think that the Arkell vs Pressdram reply is the correct one. Black Kite (talk) 15:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, yes:
    Dear Sirs, We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr J. Arkell. We note that Mr Arkell's attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you could inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.
    Yours etc.
    (“Mr Arkell has now, albeit belatedly, complied with the suggestion made to him at an earlier stage of the proceedings.”).
    Carlstak (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    So yeah, I'm aware of all this and discussions are underway about how to respond, and so I can't and shouldn't really say anything here (lots of journalists read this page in my experience) that's too quotable. But you all know me and you can very likely guess my views on this. Maybe I'll be able to say something soon enough.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:09, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with you about Strictly, but how about HIGNIFY? - Roxy the dog 16:50, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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